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United Airlines CEO said he uses well-liked pilots make sure new hires pass the hang-out test

You might be qualified for the job, but do people actually like hanging out with you?

That’s a question United Airlines is interested in when assessing new hires — and uses a unique tactic in order to answer it.

Scott Kirby, United Airlines CEO, told McKinsey chief Bob Sternfels in an interview published in early April that he started a new process at the company aimed at evaluating if a candidate is a good cultural fit.

Kirby said he asked the head of flight operations to identify a dozen pilots who are “well-liked by everyone.” When candidates come in for interviews, those popular pilots will hang out with them — walk them around the building, have lunch with them, and escort them to interviews.

“I told this group of pilots, ‘Your job is just to assess: Is this interviewee someone I would like to take a four-day trip with? And if you say no, then they’re out. You get a veto vote,'” Kirby said. “The idea is to pick people who care about others, who you want to hang out with, who you want to be with.”

A spokesperson for United told Business Insider that practice is one part of a larger process for hiring pilots that includes “the rigorous standards set by United and the FAA.”

Assessing for culture fit is common in hiring, but the stakes could be especially high when it comes to flight crews who can spend days at a time working together on consecutive flights.

Jobs at United Airlines can also be competitive. Kirby said in the interview with McKinsey that when United lists openings for 2,000 to 3,000 flight attendant roles, the company can receive 75,000 applications in a couple of hours.

“So for us, the question is: How do you find people who have the right mentality and customer service attitude?” he said. “We can train them to do the jobs, but how do you build a process to pick the right people and keep them excited?”

As of December 2025, United Airlines had around 113,200 employees, according to company financials, after several years of head count growth.




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Meta hires longtime Apple design leader Alan Dye to run a new Reality Labs creative studio

Meta has hired longtime Apple design leader Alan Dye to run a new creative studio inside its Reality Labs division, CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced in a series of posts on Threads on Tuesday.

“Today we’re establishing a new creative studio in Reality Labs led by Alan Dye, who has spent nearly 20 years leading design at Apple,” Zuckerberg wrote on Threads, saying the group will help define “the next generation of our products and experiences.”

Zuckerberg said the studio will bring together “design, fashion, and technology” and that Meta wants to “treat intelligence as a new design material and imagine what becomes possible when it is abundant, capable, and human-centered.”

The goal, he added, is to “elevate design within Meta” by assembling a team with “craft, creative vision, systems thinking, and deep experience building iconic products that bridge hardware and software.”

Dye will work alongside several high-profile design leaders. He will report to Meta’s chief technology officer and Reality Labs head Andrew Bosworth.

Dye is one of the most prominent figures in Apple’s modern design history. He has led Apple’s design studio since 2015 and has played a key role in shaping the company’s software and the look and feel of many of its devices, including the interfaces for products such as the Apple Watch, iPhone X, and Vision Pro headset.

Most recently, Dye was responsible for Liquid Glass, Apple’s new design across its devices that makes elements of the user interface look transparent.

His team has also worked on a slate of new smart home hardware, according to Bloomberg, which first reported his move to Meta.

Zuckerberg said that Dye will be joined by “another acclaimed design lead from Apple,” Billy Sorrentino, as well as Joshua To, who leads interface design across Reality Labs; industrial design lead Pete Bristol; and metaverse design and art teams led by Jason Rubin.

The CEO framed the move as part of Meta’s push into AI-powered devices such as smart glasses.

“We’re entering a new era where AI glasses and other devices will change how we connect with technology and each other,” Zuckerberg wrote.

While the potential is “enormous,” he said the new studio will focus on making every interaction “thoughtful, intuitive, and built to serve people.”

Earlier this year, Meta hired another Apple engineer, Ruoming Pang, to its new Superintelligence Labs organization. Pang led Apple’s AI models team.

Apple did not respond to a request for comment from Business Insider. A Meta spokesperson pointed to Zuckerberg’s posts on Threads.

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