Raising Cane’s CEO said he likes his Box Combos without any veggies in them.
Joe Bonham, a TikTok content creator behind the series “Financial Flex,” interviewed Raising Cane’s top boss, Todd Graves, in a March video. He asked Graves what his go-to order at the restaurant is, and Graves replied, “Box Combo, no slaw, extra toast, extra sauce.”
When Bonham asked why he substitutes the coleslaw with extra toast, Graves said, “I don’t like coleslaw, man, that’s why you can trade it out.”
“I wanted like a vegetable component to the meal, right, and coleslaw was a southern thing, so I’m like, yeah, add it, but I don’t care for it,” he added.
The Box Combo comes with four chicken fingers, crinkle-cut fries, Cane’s sauce, a piece of toast, coleslaw, and a drink. It costs around $13.
Graves founded Raising Cane’s in 1996 at the age of 24 in Louisiana. His net worth is now around $11.1 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.
Raising Cane’s has become the third-most-popular chicken restaurant in the US, according to QSR Magazine, edged out by Chick-fil-A and Popeyes. It has over 900 stores nationwide, per a June report by CNBC.
The company is privately held. But in 2024, Bloomberg reported that it told investors its revenue increased 33% year on year in the first six months of 2024, to $2.3 billion.
Raising Cane’s rise in popularity comes as chicken has become the “it” protein in the US over the last few years. In 2024, McDonald’s CEO said that its chicken products were earning the chain as much as its beef products.
Dorenne Simonson didn’t anticipate being a mother again — especially not at 66.
Simonson, who manages a direct care office in New Jersey, took over as the primary caregiver for her granddaughter when her daughter was unable to care for her, just two months after giving birth.
Simonson, a single mother of five grown children, no longer considers herself a grandparent to her now-four-year-old granddaughter; she’s the mom. She’s up at 5:30 a.m., packing lunch, and doing her granddaughter’s hair. She drives her to day care, then works from 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. After making her dinner, she tucks her granddaughter in by 8 p.m. Weekends mean laundry, cleaning, and food prep. Her granddaughter was born exposed to drugs and has poor vision, so much of her PTO goes toward caseworker meetings or trying to find proper medical care. Even securing baby formula was a struggle. It’s left her with little time for herself and a limited social life. And given the costs, Simonson expects to work until she dies.
“I’ve always been in a situation where I pretty much had to spend whatever I made, and so I do look at the future and go, ‘This is going to be interesting,'” Simonson says.
In interviews for my 80 Over 80 series, a comprehensive look at America’s oldest workers, dozens of grandparents said their role in their grandchildren’s lives deviates dramatically from what they remembered of their own grandparents. Many said that because they worked at least part-time, there weren’t as many opportunities to see or call their grandchildren. Many wish they could support their grandchildren’s education and well-being, but with the rising costs of long-term care and daily expenses, any extra money goes toward savings. Some said they’ve been forced to choose between buying a birthday gift for their grandson and paying the water bill.
Others, like Simonson, have had to step into a more active role, becoming a full-time caregiver. For many grandparents with additional responsibilities, aging doesn’t come with a golf club membership. Over two dozen grandparents who are caring for their grandchildren full-time told me this year that doing so has been rewarding but wallet-sucking, agitating, and invisible.
Either way, many said they don’t fit the stereotype of the crocheting, cookie-baking, and sweet, if occasional, presence. For some, the new paradigm hurts.
Grandparents are doing more of the caregiving
Rebecca Reed, 87, isn’t sure how she managed to survive raising her two grandchildren. Her son-in-law and daughter died within a year and a half of each other in the mid-2000s, and Reed and her husband, who was in his early 70s, took in their grandchildren, who were 13 and 11. Since her husband worked, she took on many parental responsibilities.
At first, Reed was in “grandparent mode,” giving them whatever they wanted, but quickly pivoted to “parent mode,” setting rules and expectations. After retiring, Reed and her husband relied on their savings, Social Security, and their daughter’s life insurance policy to pay bills and send the kids to private school. Once her husband died in 2011, she filed for bankruptcy and returned to work. Fifteen years later, she works two jobs, earning $12 an hour. She can’t retire, and her schedule gives her few opportunities to see her grandchildren.
“At 90, I’m retiring from work no matter what,” Reed says. “I don’t know if I’ll be able to even pick up a baby at that age. I really hope I’m around for that because that would be icing on the cake.”
Pat Hennessy and his wife cherish their grandchildren, though he doesn’t plan to stop working.
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Older grandparents — particularly grandmothers — are increasingly taking on caregiving responsibilities. An analysis of the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey (ACS) by researchers from the University of Pittsburgh found that between 2009 and 2021, grandparent caregivers 60 and older living without the child’s parent present rose by nearly 21%. Similarly, Brookings used the 2023 ACS to find that about 1 million children under 18 live with a grandparent who is responsible for their daily care and live without a parent at home. In nearly half of the cases, a single grandmother is left alone to care for her grandchildren.
Madonna Harrington Meyer, a sociology professor at Syracuse University who has studied grandparenting, said that many grandparents who take on additional caregiving responsibilities struggle with expenses, sometimes sacrificing meals for themselves, delaying medical care, or making significant lifestyle changes. Such sacrifices often come with some regret about depleting their savings, she says.
“Juggling work and grandchildren in your 60s and even 70s can be a big ask that can be a lot for an older body to handle,” Harrington Meyer said.
Annie Nicol is one of the growing number of older grandparents who are taking on caregiving responsibilities for their children’s children.
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While some supports are in place, such as federal and state kinship care services, assistance from the National Family Caregiver Support Program, and online support groups, there are still major gaps for grandparents in challenging situations. Christine Fruhauf, a professor of human development and family studies at Colorado State University, said most of the grandparents she’s worked with are willing to make major sacrifices to get their grandchildren what they need.
“Grandparents are resilient, and they’ll figure things out. If Facility A is not going to help them, they’ll go to Facility B. They’ll keep seeing where they can get support when they need it,” she says.
Grandparents aren’t retiring as quickly
Not only are grandparents caregiving more often, they’re also working more often. Roughly one in five Americans age 65 and over works, a twofold increase since the 1980s, though the rise has slowed somewhat in just the last few years. A Business Insider analysis of Census data found that 4.2% of the 80+ population still works, up from 3% in 2010. Some of this is for good reasons, such as improvements in health outcomes and an increasing desire to keep feeling productive. On the downside, the increase in jobholding is also due to growing financial instability among lower-income older Americans and cuts (or threats of cuts) to support for older Americans. For millions of those still working into their 70s and 80s, that’s less time with the grandkids.
At 80, Noe Parenteau suspects he won’t retire anytime soon. Parenteau, who lives outside Fort Myers, Florida, works as an operations automation analyst to support his family, as his sister is in memory care, while his ex-wife has dementia. He has few opportunities to see his grandchildren, aside from Christmas. Parenteau knows that at some point, the money he’s set aside for retirement will go toward care for himself or his family. He’s spent many of his non-working hours talking to his grandchildren, often explaining to them about getting older.
Many grandparents are working past retirement age, some to support their grandchildren and others to maintain a sense of purpose beyond family.
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“Over the past decade that I’ve been living in Florida, I try to go up for an extended period of time, where I can take them to school and see them in their daily lives,” Parenteau says. “I want them to see me as part of their daily lives, too.”
Dozens of grandparents who still work told me that though they love seeing their grandchildren and providing for them financially, they find it essential not to lose sight of their own goals. They felt they needed to better not only the loves of their grandchildren but society as a whole. They valued keeping their brains stimulated, muscles active, and savings accounts as large as possible. Many grandparents like Parenteau need to keep working to ensure they have enough in the bank for the inevitable end-of-life medical costs. Many said they didn’t want to give too much of their savings away to family.
On the extreme end, Harrington Meyer tells me that some older Americans are staying on the job precisely because they don’t want to be so involved in their grandkids’ lives.
“One of the things I found in my research is that some grandparents continue to work full time, even though they don’t need to anymore, precisely so that they are not available to take care of the grandchildren,” she says.
But for most people, the role of family elder is all about balance. In many ways, Pat Hennessy, 65, and his wife are traditional grandparents to their six grandchildren in California and Texas, acting as caregivers when needed and providing a financial support network without overstepping. When their children were first learning how to be parents, they would act as coaches.
Grandparenting is a labor of love, though that labor has been getting more intense.
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Hennessy, who lives outside Los Angeles, pivoted last year from an investigator in insurance fraud claims to launching a newsletter and writing online. His wife still works full-time for the same company she’s been at for 45 years and plans to retire in a few years. Part of the impetus for building his business was to improve his decent financial situation and make it easier to enjoy their family down the line, as well as support extended family members in need, such as his brother with special needs.
“I’m hoping to be as active, aspiring, and adventuresome at 80 as I am now, and we’re trying to position ourselves financially to be able to do all those things,” Hennessy says. “We want to travel more and be around our grandkids and children as much as possible.”
Making do
The modern grandparent experience runs the gamut. I talked to older people who felt they were struggling to find time to be involved, while some grandparents told me they want to live out their retirements in peace without constant nagging or responsibilities, much to the chagrin of their stressed-out children. Many grandparents I spoke to, especially those who are more well-off, said they’ve managed to find a balance between caregiving, work, and alone time. Others said that they’ve had to focus on their own priorities — and they’re at peace with that.
Susan Freeman, 72, missed out on watching her grandchildren grow up as much as she wanted. Freeman sold her pizzeria in 2004 after her mother had a stroke, and she cared for her full-time, relying on her husband’s income and Social Security Disability Insurance. Once her mother went into a nursing facility in 2015, she returned to work at her sister’s store selling uniforms. Because of her work and caregiving duties, she would often miss her grandchildren’s sports games and events. Freeman has about $58,000 saved and $37,000 to go on refinancing her home. There’s little for her to contribute to her grandchildren, as she already helps her own children out financially.
“My grandchildren really are wonderful, and they do always come over for dinner, while my granddaughter picks me up to take me to work once a week,” Freeman says. “Whatever I missed out on, I don’t really think it affected them. It would bother me, but they were good with that and understood everything.”
As expectations around the level of engagement change, many grandparents have had to learn on their own what a steady, fulfilling grandparent experience could look like. Based on my conversations, it’s clear that the modern grandparent experience is a lot more active than sitting in a rocking chair dispensing pearls of family wisdom.
Some grandparents, like Nicol, are homeschooling their grandchildren.
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Take Annie Nicol, 76, who started homeschooling her grandson during pandemic-era school closures after consulting with family. She cut back on her work hours to homeschool him and retired a few months ago. His mother died when he was an infant, and now he and his father — Nicol’s son — live in another house on her Bay Area property.
A few days each week, while her husband works as a therapist, she splits homeschooling responsibilities with his other grandmother and his aunt, who are both teachers. She says doing so has given her purpose, and she thinks it could be the key to longevity — her parents both lived into their 90s and had productive retirements. Grandparenting hasn’t been a hit financially, as she lives frugally, though she occasionally splurges on gifts like a trip to Disneyland or the aquarium. In between homeschooling, she runs a small farm on her property and serves on the local board for the homeless population.
“There isn’t a whole lot of support out there for this, but I think culturally, we’re going the wrong direction because family is so important, and everyone in that family has a value and can contribute,” Nicol says.
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Scientists and business leaders are responding to a viral essay warning of AI’s impact on jobs with a mix of agreement and skepticism.
The essay, titled “Something Big is Coming,” written by cofounder and CEO of OthersideAI, Matt Shumer, has racked up more than 60 million views on X as of Thursday.
In the 5,000-word post, Shumer said that AI could upend daily life on a scale “much bigger” than COVID, a comparison which drew pushback online. He wrote that the changes already unfolding in the tech sector are likely a preview of disruptions that could soon reach other industries as well.
“Even if there is a 20% chance of this happening, people deserve to know and have time to prepare,” Shumer told Business Insider’s Brent Griffiths in an interview.
Here’s what some of the sharpest minds in AI are saying about Shumer’s essay.
David Haber
Haber, a general partner at venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz specializing in technology investments, posted on X that Shumer’s essay contains “great advice for how to get ahead in your job at any large company right now.”
“‘I used AI to do this analysis in an hour instead of three days is going to be the most valuable person in the room.’ Not eventually. Right now,” Haber quotes from the essay. “Learn these tools. Get proficient. Demonstrate what’s possible.”
Alexis Ohanian
The Reddit founder responded to Shumer’s initial post on X with a simple comment: “Great writeup. Strongly agree.”
Since 2023, Reddit has introduced a range of AI-driven tools, from search features that summarize user discussions to AI that sharpens its content recommendations and targets ads, but Ohanian recently emphasized that the platform must retain its humanity to stay competitive.
Eric Markowitz
Markowitz, the author and managing partner and director of research at Nightview Capital, a long-term-oriented investment firm, responded to Schumer with an essay almost as long, which criticized the practice of chasing speed and replacing the value of humanity simply because it could be done.
“These two worlds — Wall Street and Silicon Valley — have formed a feedback loop of short-termism so tight, so self-reinforcing, that they’ve confused efficiency with purpose, growth with meaning, and the elimination of people with progress,” wrote Markowitz.
“I have two research assistants. Could I replace them with AI? Of course. But their value extends their weekly output,” Markowitz added. “They give meaning to my work and I love seeing the excitement in their faces when they make a new discovery that I, alone, could not have found.”
“Let me say it again: we are not our tools. We never have been,” Markowitz wrote in conclusion.
Todd McLees
McLees, the founder of HumanSkills.AI, wrote on X that Shumer is not wrong, but he said that the advice Shumer provided is akin to “telling someone the floodwaters are rising and handing them a better bucket.”
“As AI grows in ability, our role in defining direction, values, and purpose only becomes more essential,” McLees said.
“What do you bring when the machine can do the work? That’s the only question that matters when intelligence is abundant,” McLees added. “Shumer wrote the alarm. It’s a good one. But alarms don’t tell you where to go. You have to find that within yourself.”
Gary Marcus
Marcus, Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Neural Science at NYU and founder of AI companies Robust.AI, has some harsh words for Schumer in his newsletter.
Marcuz called Shumer’s blog post “weaponized hype, filled with vivid narrative and marketing speech,” and said he did not provide real data to support the claim that the latest AI can write complicated apps without mistakes.
“Shumer’s presentation is completely one-sided, omitting lots of concerns that have been widely expressed here and elsewhere,” Marcus added, after discussing various studies that question the accuracy and productivity gain AI tools actually provide.
Vishal Misra
Misra, Vice Dean of Computing and Artificial Intelligence at Columbia University, responded in a lengthy Substack article that detailed why he doesn’t think AI is as scary as it sounds, at least not right now.
Misra wrote that many strange AI behaviors that make them seem sentient, such as perceived resistance and self-preservation, are simply a result of training data.
As for the possible elimination of jobs, Misra said he understands the anxiety, but history says we may not need to panic.
“When the camera was invented, portrait painters had every reason to panic. Their livelihood depended on a skill that a machine could now approximate,” Misra wrote.
“What happened? Painters didn’t disappear. They were freed from the obligation to faithfully reproduce reality and ventured into impressionism, cubism, abstract expressionism,” Misra added. “The camera didn’t kill painting. It liberated it.”
Growing up, I knew two things: I wanted to be a mother and to live abroad one day.
Both came true when I met my Danish husband while traveling solo almost a decade ago. Not long after, I moved from New York City to Copenhagen, which was ranked first in the Happy City Index for 2025.
We had our Danish-American son, Aksel, just over three years ago, and today we live in central Copenhagen. I now experience Danish society more fully through the reality of raising him here.
Having Aksel made me understand why Denmark earns its praise. Here, parents are encouraged to trust children’s independence and rely on community support. In the US, parenting is more often shaped by caution and a stronger emphasis on individual responsibility.
My son goes on adventures at day care
This may be my favorite example of that trust: one afternoon, when Aksel was about a year old, I picked him up from vuggestue (day care) and learned his class had gone on a field trip earlier that day. I didn’t sign a permission slip, nor did I receive an email.
Since then, I’ve been surprised by updates to Denmark’s parent-teacher app, Aula. I’ll receive photos of Aksel riding the Metro or exploring Rosenborg Castle during school hours, all without my prior knowledge.
Growing up in the Connecticut suburbs, that would have been unthinkable. I remember even a trip to the town center (just a five-minute walk from my high school) required signed permission slips and repeated reminders to parents.
This is because a stronger suing culture in the US often means safety concerns extend beyond protection to liability. Denmark operates on a different premise, with little fear of lawsuits by parents and a general trust in educators and parents to exercise judgment.
Public life in Denmark is child-centric
That child-first mentality extends into public life. When Aksel was an infant, I used to refer to Copenhagen’s mall as the “milk stop” because there were always proper family rooms for feeding and changing (including in men’s bathrooms!). Restaurants often include play areas, and even formal dining establishments have offered Aksel a highchair.
In contrast, when traveling with Aksel in the US, I always feel as if I’m somehow disrupting adult systems. For example, I remember meticulously planning subway routes in Manhattan because so few stations are stroller-friendly.
In Denmark, public spaces actively accommodate families, reducing stress by meeting children’s needs without explanation. Accessibility features like ramps built into staircases are standard, and the idea of “play” is prioritized. Copenhagen is even designed so that anyone can walk to a beach or park in 15 minutes.
That same thinking shows up in everyday transportation. Like many parents here, I take Aksel to daycare on a cargo bike (the Danish equivalent of the “soccer mom van”) because Denmark invests in supporting it.
Childcare is affordable and accessible
When I signed Aksel up for public day care, I was surprised by how straightforward and accessible the process was, thanks to a centralized system supported by government subsidies that make quality childcare affordable.
There is far less stay-at-home parenting in Denmark because childcare is treated as a public good, something families are expected to need rather than justify. In fact, Denmark leads the European Union in the share of children attending formal childcare each week.
And in this family-first society, even parents in corporate roles usually pick up their kids by 4 p.m. on weekdays, a sharp contrast to the late work hours typical in the US. Here, work simply isn’t given the same priority as family, which, as a “workaholic American,” I’m learning to adjust to.
Children are trusted to take risks
My mom group describes Danish playgrounds as coming “with a side of danger.” This is because risky play is more valued in Denmark than in the US. In day care, kids routinely use tools, work with fire, and learn by doing, because the belief is that resilience is built through experience, not by avoiding discomfort.
At first, this approach was uncomfortable for me because I was used to the American “helicopter mom” mentality. Over time, I realized what seemed like a lack of parental control in Denmark was actually just an expression of trust in educators, institutions, and, of course, children themselves.
Parenting here feels collective
A friend once told me that parenting in the US often feels like defensive driving: constantly anticipating risks and advocating for your child.
That’s a marked contrast to Denmark, where I don’t feel compelled to stay on alert all the time. Whether Aksel’s on an unannounced school field trip or learning to bike at a staffed playground (while I watch from a distance), trusting his safety is the norm, not the exception.
Denmark isn’t perfect, and parenting as an expat has its unique challenges. Still, raising my son in this trust-based, child-centered society has given us what every parent seeks: a genuine sense of community and support.
Meta is scrambling to compete in the red-hot AI arms race, but an advocacy group is demanding nearly a dozen European countries force Meta to pump the breaks.
The European advocacy group announced complaints in 11 European countries over an upcoming Meta policy change that would allow it to scrape old user data from Facebook to train its artificial intelligence models.
Meta “plans to use years of personal posts, private images, or online tracking data for an undefined ‘AI technology’ that can ingest personal data from any source and share any information with undefined ‘third parties,'” the group, aptly named None of Your Business, or NOYB, said in a press announcement asking authorities to step in and suspend the policy.
Meta’s updated privacy policy is scheduled to go live in late June. It would impact some 400 million European users, NOYB said. The group said it was concerning that users would have to manually opt out of providing data in the future.
“Instead of asking users for their consent (opt-in), Meta argues that it has a legitimate interest that overrides the fundamental right to data protection and privacy of European users,” NOYB said. Europe has strict data privacy laws outlined in the European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation, which went into effect in 2018and has had a profound effect on Big Tech’s operations in Europe.
NOYB filed complaints in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Ireland, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, and Spain.
A Meta spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Business Insider, but the company previously told Reuters that its new policy followedthe law.
“We are confident that our approach complies with privacy laws, and our approach is consistent with how other tech companies are developing and improving their AI experiences in Europe (including Google and Open AI),” a Meta spokesperson said, according to Reuters.
In the United States, Meta AI has already had access to public user data and private chat conversations on Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp, and there is noway to fully opt out of sharing your information, The Washington Post reported.