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Netflix’s Ted Sarandos says he asked Trump not to pursue movie tariffs. Here’s what he proposed instead.

Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos doesn’t think tariffs are the right way to boost US movie and TV production — and he thinks he’s gotten through to President Donald Trump on the issue.

“He has brought up tariffs for the movie and television industry many times, and I’ve hopefully talked to him the way out of them,” Sarandos said in a new interview with POLITICO, which, alongside Business Insider, is part of the Axel Springer Global Reporters Network.

Trump has been keen on using tariffs to encourage more filming in the US. In May, he announced on Truth Social a plan to impose a 100% tariff on films produced outside the US. He hasn’t implemented it so far.

Trump’s plan to add tariffs on foreign movies stemmed from a desire to slow production declines in Hollywood and other areas of the US that “are being devastated” by filming incentive programs abroad, he wrote in his May announcement on Truth Social.

Los Angeles production work has been dropping off for years, and the city’s media professionals are feeling the pain. Overseas filming hubs like London have been courting production work by offering big cost-saving incentives.

Sarandos said he’d prefer the US use similar tax incentives to bring filming back home.

“Healthy incentive programs attract a lot of production, and you’ve seen a lot of them move from California to Georgia to New Jersey,” Sarandos told POLITICO. “Having the incentives versus tariffs is much better.”

The tariff structure for a movie, which isn’t a physical good, isn’t entirely clear. A White House spokesman said in a statement shortly after Trump’s announcement that “no final decisions on foreign film tariffs” had been made and that the administration was “exploring all options to deliver on President Trump’s directive to safeguard our country’s national and economic security while Making Hollywood Great Again.”

A fee on foreign productions could become very expensive for Netflix, which has released a slate of international films and TV shows over the years, including “All Quiet on the Western Front,” “Squid Game,” and “Adolescence.”

Netflix’s global reach and its ability to turn a South Korean or German drama into a global hit have been key differentiators for the company, which is expected to spend as much as $20 billion on content this year.




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Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos says he bailed on WBD because of the deal’s price, not because of Donald Trump

Did Netflix walk away from Warner Bros. Discovery because of money? Or because of politics?

Money, says Netflix boss Ted Sarandos. Just money.

Sarandos, the streamer’s co-CEO, says Netflix pulled out of the WBD bidding war — ultimately won by Larry and David Ellison’s Paramount — because Netflix didn’t want to raise the price it would pay for WBD’s studio and HBO business.

The fact that the proposed Netflix/WBD deal was getting pushback from Republicans in Washington — and other regulators in the US and around the world — was not an issue, Sarandos said in an interview this weekend.

“I still believe in all the positives. I just believed in them up to $27.75 a share,” Sarandos told Bloomberg, referring to the price Netflix originally agreed to pay for WBD’s studio business and HBO unit in December.

I don’t know that Sarandos’ argument will entirely sway those who think the Ellisons’ attempts to court President Donald Trump and other Republicans had an impact on Netflix’s calculus. David Ellison, for example, attended last week’s State of the Union address as the guest of Trump ally Sen. Lindsay Graham.

Adding fuel to those theories: Netflix announced that it was withdrawing from the WBD auction shortly after Sarandos visited the White House on Thursday. But Sarandos says nothing in that meeting had anything to do with his decision. “It was a very productive meeting, nothing out of the ordinary,” he said.

Instead, Sarandos said, Netflix had already decided to bow out earlier that day, as soon as WBD told the company that Paramount’s most recent bid was a “superior proposal.” Just about everyone in the media world expected Netflix to counter that offer with a new one of their own.

But asked repeatedly about what role Trump and any other politician had in his decision, Sarandos insisted that the answer was zero.

“Things have been going exactly the way they should,” he said, arguing that “the president stayed completely neutral on this.”

This is also what Sarandos had said for the last few weeks, when asked if politics and/or Trump’s preferences would influence the deal. That made sense at the time — why complain about politics at the same time you’re trying to woo politicians?

And it may continue to make sense, given that Netflix may end up back in Washington in the future, asking for a sign-off on a different deal. (Sarandos did say it was “unlikely” he would try to buy something else in the next year or so.)

But what about Trump’s interest in the fate of CNN, which is currently owned by WBD, and which will become part of Paramount, assuming the deal closes? Trump had previously announced that it was “imperative that CNN be sold”.

Follow that idea to its logical conclusion, and it would mean that Trump would favor the Paramount bid, since it was for all of WBD, including CNN. The Netflix bid didn’t include the news network or WBD’s other basic cable channels.

“Once it was clear that we weren’t in the CNN business, it was a lot less interesting. He didn’t care that much more about our deal,” Sarandos said.

I wanted to make sure I understood what Sarandos was saying: Was it that once Trump realized Netflix didn’t want to buy CNN, he didn’t support Netflix buying any part of WBD? Or was it that once Trump realized Netflix didn’t want to buy CNN, he became less interested in its outcome, period?

The latter, a Netflix rep told me Sunday.




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Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos reveals how he personally pitched Trump on the Warner Bros. deal

Before Netflix made its winning bid for Warner Bros., its co-CEO pitched President Donald Trump directly on the merits of the deal.

The pair found common ground, Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos said.

“The president’s interests in this are the same as ours, which is to create and protect jobs,” Sarandos said of Trump at the UBS media conference on Monday afternoon.

Sarandos said he’d talked to Trump “many times since the election about the different challenges facing the entertainment industry.”

“The president cares deeply about the entertainment industry, and he loves the entertainment industry,” Sarandos continued.

Trump praised Sarandos on Sunday, calling him a “great person” who he said had done “one of the greatest jobs in the history of movies.” Still, Trump said Netflix’s “big market share” in the streaming space “could be a problem” as it tries to buy Warner Bros. Discovery’s streaming and studio assets.

The Netflix-Warner Bros. deal reached on Friday is worth $82.7 billion, including $72 billion in equity. WBD’s TV networks like CNN or HGTV, aren’t in the proposal.

Rival suitor Paramount Skydance responded on Monday with a hostile bid in the form of a $30-per-share, all-cash offer for all of WBD, including the declining TV networks. Netflix’s offer is $27.75 per share, comprising mostly cash and some stock. There’s debate among analysts about whether Netflix’s or Paramount’s renewed offer is more attractive, as it depends on the value of WBD’s TV networks.

Paramount’s move “was entirely expected,” Sarandos said.

Paramount CEO David Ellison, who Trump has publicly praised, went on CNBC on Monday morning to tout his company’s offer as “pro-consumer, pro-creative talent,” and “pro-competition.” Ellison said his company’s offer had “faster regulatory certainty to close” than Netflix’s. Ellison’s father, Oracle cofounder Larry Ellison, is a longtime Trump ally and one of the richest people on the planet.

However, Netflix also seems to be building rapport with Trump. That could help explain why Netflix’s Sarandos and fellow co-CEO Greg Peters are optimistic about their deal.

“We are very confident that regulators should, and will, approve it,” Peters said of the WBD deal.

Sarandos pitched the streaming giant’s proposed acquisition as a net positive for the labor market, despite the concerns of many in Hollywood. He also said the company is “deeply committed” to releasing movies from Warner Bros. in theaters, “exactly the way they’ve released those movies today.”

That overture could help ease Trump’s concerns. Sarandos pitched Netflix as a great job saver.

“What the president has been interested in, in this deal, has been: To what extent does it protect and create jobs in America?” Sarandos said.

Sarandos warned that Ellison would implement lots of layoffs if his bid won and said the Paramount CEO promised about $6 billion in cost savings from a WBD deal. Those so-called “synergies,” in analyst jargon, translate to a smaller workforce, Sarandos said.

“Where do you think synergies come from? Cutting jobs,” Sarandos said. “We’re not cutting jobs — we’re making jobs.”

Netflix has promised investors $2 billion to $3 billion in its own cost savings from its Warner Bros. deal, however.




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